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Episode 22 · Feb 25, 2026 · 63 min
Michael Chernow
Addiction, Discipline, and Building a Life Worth Staying For
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Michael Chernow’s story is not a clean arc. It’s chaos, abuse, addiction, overdose, and then — structure, discipline, faith, and radical accountability. He grew up in a volatile household with a physically ill and mentally unstable father.
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